The straightforward fender 59 bassman outperforms most of the fancy amps on the market today. Shop for the fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd 4x10 guitar combo and. I am reasonably certain that i am running lower plate volts than stock as i switched over to the jj rectifier. The problem is, if you want that 59 bassman tone, the reissue does not get any close to it. The real deal is really loud, and loves to have the channels jumped. Vintage 1956 fender bassman replace the filter caps. Im open to new suggestions, but the concentration of my search has been on used vox ac30s and used fender tube amps, specifically used twins, deluxes, super reverbs, and bassman reissues. Just seems a bit low for being max bias on this thing. Transformers should always be installed by a professional electronics technician since there are high voltages involved and may result in serious physical harm to yourself, the transformer andor your equipment if installed incorrectly. I know its a simple process, but im very clumsy and fear electrocution.
However it is also critical to rebias the amp heeding the 5881s 23w rating. Fender tweed bassman style transformers by classictone. You can quickly select your boss fbm1 fender 59 bassman using our search bar or step by step method so that you receive an accurate instant quote. This 50w rig allowed the bass to hold its own onstage with drums, electric guitars, and miked piano, the common instrumentation of the day. But on the side of the reissue, it costs about a sixth of what a real one would cost. Great repair of a classic fender blackface bassman tube head. On the 59 bassman ltd recent reissue thats the max current i can get with 120v at the wall dialed in with variac with the bias pot all the way to the right. Fender 59 bassman reissue fender stratocaster guitar forum. The history of the fender bassman amplifier fender. What started the whole reissue series of amplifiers from fender also prompted many eccentric tv repairmen to put out their own tweedstyle clone. Trying to date my 59 bassman reissue ltd cant find a serial.
It wasnt a speakerit was more like an electronic crackle that would happen on and off while i was playing and sometimes continue for a couple of seconds after the music had stopped. Its the together again amp although that song was recorded in early 64 when it was still a 410 amp. The mystery of the fender bassman 5f6a schematic cracking the. The plate voltage is running 490vdc so that s right around 60%. First of all, it doesnt break up as early and even when it does, it lacks the warm overdriven. This is my favorite and most useful 5f6a mod, a threeway spdt onoffon miniswitch gives you. It s biased to 60mv at the test point which, of course, translates to 30ma per tube. Oct 20, 2010 my problem is with my 59 bassman reissue. This 50 watt reissue features a lacquered tweed covered, fingerjointed pine cabinet, 4 jensen special design speakers, and internal bias pot to adjust bias on the two 6l6gc power tubes. This amp is a near perfect recreation of the original 59 bassman.
Trying to date my 59 bassman reissue ltd cant find a. But if you want all tube tone in a bass combo then the 59 ri is your amp. Fender 59 bassman for bass discussion in amps and cabs bg started by richard43, oct 7, 2008. Biasing a fender 59 bassman ltd, 67ma reading max with pot. Its beige color and shiny metal control plate evoke the tweed covering and chrome faceplate of the real 59, and even the fender and bassman logos are period perfect. Reissue tweed bassman amplifiers have paid the mortgage for more than one tube amp guru. The information contained herein is confidential and proprietary to fender musical instruments corp. Mar 30, 2014 the real deal is really loud, and loves to have the channels jumped. The 50s fender bassman was the pro bassists answer to amplifying a great new invention. The modern edition of one of the greatest guitar amps ever made. Later that year leo fender changed it over to a 115. If you dont like the sound of it with 6l6s why not sell it and get a jmp 50 watt with 6550s. Showman 412 s, 59 bassman, 112xp, 115xp, 110xp, 0711500100, 0711100100, 0711200100.
We were sitting there and he was playing a les paul straight into the amp, volume at maybe 4. Are all these things fixed biased, or just certain ones. Bias pot on 59 bassman ltd maxed out the gear page. Mod your bassman reissue for vintage tone to start i. There are a plethora of bassman heads out there, and just as many circuit variations. The 59 bassman ltd is rated at 50 watts and certainly puts out the power. Eventually bass players found that the amp was not really suited to their application as it would distort and break up too early. It is brighter and harsher sounding and the overdrive is not the same. One of the earlier generations of fenders top of the line amp, the 5e6a circuit evolved into the coveted 5f6a 1959 bassman. Get the guaranteed best price on tube combo guitar amplifiers like the fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd 4x10 guitar combo at musicians friend.
Its not quite time to retube yet, but this will be my first retubing with my bassman. The new tv bassman amps are really more of a modern and much louder amp. How to get both the normal and bright channels to work simultaneously on this venerable amp. I need a fitted cover for my fender 59 bassman reissue. The mighty 4x10 bassman began life as a bass amp before. Fender 5f6a 59 bassman amplifier info and modifications. David, ive been watching the bassman chronicles again. Remember, our goal is to make selling your boss fbm1 fender 59 bassman the quickest, easiest way to sell and tradein online.
The tweed bassman is a whole different beast than the later head bassman amps, which usually ran with a 2x12 cab. Ive never owned either the earlier reissues or the ltd, but i cant remember a time i played one and thought eww. Permalink does anyone know when they started making them in mexico. This symbol advises the user to read all accompanying. Keep in mind throughout this lesson that fender is in business to make money, and the bottom line is a. The fender has been reissuing the 5f8a 4x 10 tweed bassman for quite some time now and its one of fender better amps but it does not sound that much like a original bassman. The clean tones are very transparent and more chimey and the originals, close to a blackface princeton at lower volumes. Hwy 30 w, fort wayne, in 46818 get directions phone hours. The reissue bassman is actually closer to what bass players needed back in 1954.
What are your typical volume and tone settings at a gig, where youre just playing one bassman and not micing through the pa. To replace the widepanel style, fender started building its narrowpanel tweed cabinets, which featured less cabinet and more grille in front, in late 1954 for the. Opinins on the fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd combo. P i like also the ac30 but the 59 just has that smooth tone, 3d, fullness and creamy cleans.
These updates are used in the fender 59 bassman reissue and are shown on my 5f6a layout at the top of this webpage. Does anyone use a fender bassman for playing bass as opposed to only guitar. Mods for reissue fender tweed bassmans carls custom amps. Covers are available in different colors and sizes to fit most fender amplifiers and extension cabinets. This amp is capable of being very loud, especially if your interests are in clear clean tones. The mystery of the fender bassman 5f6a schematic cracking the code. The date code from the qa sticker indicates it was made in july of 2001. The bassman ri is a very, very bright amp, and stays clean for a while, especially with single coils. For more information on screen grid voltage and overdrive tone see tube guitar amplifier overdrive.
In the 1950s, the bassman was perfect for amplifying that new invention, the fender precision bass. The many amplifiers that have higher plate voltage but use a tube rectifier can use the tungsol 5881 tubes without issue. The no feedback position makes the amp break up early kind of like a 5e3 deluxe. Protect your investment with a fitted fender amplifier cover. With a tele and that amp things can get really bright and piercing, so really, really watch the treble control, and keep it set low. Nov 14, 2014 a tour of the fbm1 fender 59 bassman pedal.
I have a 59 reissue with nos ge 12ax7s, in v1 and v2, an nos 5751 in v3 pi, and nos ge 6l6gcs i also took out the bright cap and changed the tone stack back to original and took out one 20 uf preamp filter cap and it sounds awesome. You should reduce the measured cathode current by about 5% to compensate for the screen. I think i finally decided the amp i need to get is a bassman 59. Okay so back around march i bought a used 59 fender bassman reissue amp from guitar center for 800 bucks. Buy fender 59 bassman ltd 50watt 4x10inch tube bass combo amp. The fender bassman is a bass amplifier introduced by fender during 1952. In 1991 fender saw fit to reissue the bassman as the fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd. Part of the boss legend series, the fbm1 pedal captures the essence of the 59 bassman in both looks and sound. For bass, the amp would probably sound good through a more conventional bass cabinet, it would probably be ok for really low volumes in the stock open back, the alnico jensens and the open back cabinet are far from ideal for the lowend. This leads to some poor soul complaining that his bassman doesnt sound like the one used by his favorite guitar player.
I love playing blues, experimental music, psychedelic rock, jazz, and harder rock. Ive narrowed it to the vox ac30 and fender bassman reissue. Through the 60s and 70s, the original alltube tweed 4x10 bassman was popular with rock, country and blues guitarists as a reliably greatsounding and easytouse guitar amp. It is disclosed solely for use by qualified technicians for purposes of equipment maintenance and service. The 2 letter date code on the tube chart, or the 2 letter date code on the qa sticker, andor the transformer number that starts with 606xxxx, with the xs being 3 or 4 additional numbers that ill need to know. Using the pedals with the bassman i enjoyed them again so much even though the pedals are just boss a bd2 and other cheap stuff every pedal, in particular the ds1, blue box and even bd2, had so much more shades slight changes made a huge difference in tone and ive used settings i never used with a twin. While hes playing, the tone suddenly went slightly distorted but not louder and then faded in and out a few times and then there was no sound at all. Legendary fender bassman the tweed covered fender bassman is considered by many to be the epitome of tone, and every current tube amplifier myth revolves around this amplifier. Fender bassman 59 reissue settings gretschtalk forum.
Ive done all the research i can handle on this topic and it turns out its pretty easy to bias a 59 bassman ltd if you have the right equipment. Opinins on the fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd. I searched the web for mods and there is some good info on hot rod delux mods and tune up stuff but not much on the 59 bassman. I have a year old 59 bassman ltd with a matched pair of new production tungsol 5881 s maximum plate dissipation 25w. Aug 10, 2014 the 59 bassman ltd is rated at 50 watts and certainly puts out the power.
Call our experts for product info and phoneonly specials. Two 47uf350v caps in series bridged with two 220k resistors for a final value. E v e r y eff o r t has been made to replicate the original sound and circuit design of fenders 59 bassman. I was using it at a gig last weekend, when it began to crackle every now and then. In order to date your 59 bassman reissued ltd i will need to know one of the below. My old 59 ri was pretty darn bright too it sounded best nice and loud and lightly driven by a darker overdrive i used to use a zvex box of rock and a blackstone. The entire circuit has been debugged, recapped, brought back to original specs, using quality modern components. The tungsol 5881 is a 23 watt tube and is rated for a maximum plate voltage of 400vdc. Fender 59 bassman electric guitar amplifier demo youtube. I think if you want all tube tone you are better off with the bassman 300 and a good modern cab. Need help in dating a fender 59 bassman 410 reissue my. Besides being a popular and important amplifier in its own right, the bassman also became the foundation on which.
In the 90s, fender released an affordable 59 bassman reissue amplifier to great acclaim. View and download fender 59 bassman service diagram online. Combine this position with the gain boost switch and you have. Admittedly, they sound great for guitar, but lets back up a little and see as fender makes a bass amplifier. Over the weekend i was visting my brotherinlaw who has a 59 bassman ltd. The 4x10s will stay tighter on the low end for your les paul and sound very full at low vol. To make the 5f6as bias adjustable you simply replace the bias circuits 56k.
I know a few people, usually the ones who hate the blackface reissues, who feel the 59 bassman is the reissue fender got right. And with a few simple tube changes it can be made into a very nice sounding amp that has. Brown nylon cover designed to fit 59 baseman reissue amplifiers manufactured from 1990present. The bassman design itself is straight up and simple with no preamp gain controls for lowlevel distortion creation. Fender vintage reissue 59 bassman ltd 4x10 guitar combo. The fender bassman 59 ltd is the companys reissue of the amp the was originally designed in 1952 to suit their very new precision bass guitar. But some people just want that all tube 59 bassman. Well, by following this guide, you can decide which bassman head is best suited to you. The bassman ltd is a 2x12 that is just a new kind of amp that has no vintage roots, the bassman tweed reissue is a modern take not all hand wired but built to gig on the old 4x10 tweed bassman. I just finished servicing tom brumleys 59 bassman that has a jbl d. Normal 27k 2 ohm tap feedback resistor no feedback jtm45 equivalent 10k feedback. Mod your bassman reissue for vintage tone singlecoil. View and download fender 59 bassman service manual online. Also maybe roll back the tone control on the bridge pickup just a tiny bit.
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